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  • 1.  Junos Space NMP 24.1 without OpenNMS... what does this really mean?

    Posted 30 days ago

    Hi all good folks!

    This might be a bit of a confusing post, but I'll try to break it down so that it will be understandable. 

    So the background is that I've been having a look at the new major release for Junos Space, version 24.1. When I look at the release notes, I see this sentence:

    Decoupling of OpenNMS from Junos Space Network Management Platform-Starting in Junos Space Network Management Platform Release 24.1R1

    What does this actually mean? I thought that OpenNMS was the building block of Junos Space NMP and that whenever I register a new device in Space NMP or Security Director, that this was registered in OpenNMS. What will be the consequences of upgrading to 24.1 and loosing OpenNMS? Could someone please enlighten me?

    The second comment/question is related to rumours that the OnPrem version of Junos Security Director will be "rebuilt" to be more a standalone application like the sky version is right now. Is the decoupling of OpenNMS in Space NMP a part of this transition? 



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    Best regards
    Vidar Stokke
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  • 2.  RE: Junos Space NMP 24.1 without OpenNMS... what does this really mean?

     
    Posted 29 days ago

    Hi,

    As it mentioned in RN, Network Monitoring (OpenNMS) is decoupled starting 24.1 Junos Space so there is no SNMP monitoring or event / trap can be seen for managed devices in Space but user can deploy their own OpenNMS server and integrate it to Space, steps are mentioned in the guide.



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    Pravin Lokhande
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  • 3.  RE: Junos Space NMP 24.1 without OpenNMS... what does this really mean?

    Posted 27 days ago

    Hi,

    So means junos space version 24.1 and above cannot display the utilization for each interface of device that has been discovered? Also it will cannot display utilization for each line card device discovered? Previously all that feature do by OpenNMS in junos space. Can someone reconfirm again?

    Thanks




  • 4.  RE: Junos Space NMP 24.1 without OpenNMS... what does this really mean?

    Posted 24 days ago

    Hi guys. 

    My conclusion is that if you want the "monitoring" part, you need to implement a separate OpenNMS server. So Space will kind of become a management tool only with 24.1. Probably all things like "CPU usage", "Memory usage", "Storage usage" etc. in Security Director will be gone if you don't implement a separate OpenNMS server. 

    In our case this is not a problem since we already have another NMS, but a plus about OpenNMS is that this can be connected with Space. So performance data and traps will then be visible in Space. 

    I will probably disable OpenNMS in my current Space implementation (running 23.x) to get a feel of the consequences prior to upgrading. 

    Anyone disagree with my conclusion?



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    Best regards
    Vidar Stokke
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  • 5.  RE: Junos Space NMP 24.1 without OpenNMS... what does this really mean?

    Posted 24 days ago

    Hi Vidar,

    I'm disagree with your conclusion. Most client in my country want all-in-one NMS. Why need to do too many NMS if one NMS can do all the function. Some end user dont have staff that have capability to setup other NMS. So that's good if Juniper bring back OpenNMS feature in Junos space. If that feature is good then please do not kill it.

    Thanks




  • 6.  RE: Junos Space NMP 24.1 without OpenNMS... what does this really mean?

    Posted 23 days ago

    My Understanding:

    Only the

    Space Network Management Platform -> Network Monitoring   

    •  Screens are impacted.  (including any rt-click Space Platform menu links to these screens)   
    • This is the Space wrapped (limited) view of OpenNMS.

    Security Director does not use OpenNMS.

    The Space Device list update from Junos Space to OpenNMS will work as it did in the past.

    • This is the only connection between Junos Space and OpenNMS openNMS with Space 24.1+
    • This is the same mechanism used in earlier versions.

    Key differences

    • Install OpenNMS in separate server according to OpenNMS instructions. 
      • You get the latest OpenNMS version from OpenNMS
      • Instead of an old OpenNMS version included on the Junos Space server installation.
    • OpenNMS webUI  will not be displayed inside Junos Space webUI
      • Instead of OpenNMS UI display with Space header and navigation on the top/left (as is done in 23.1 and lower)
    • JTAC/Juniper support team assists with  Junos Space Devices list update integration from space platform to OpenNMS only.
      • Contact OpenNMS for installation and configuration support . (separate from Junos Space)


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    Matthew Paskey
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