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How does SRX series support MLT

  • 1.  How does SRX series support MLT

    Posted 02-06-2025 15:16

    I would like to know how the SRX series gateway supports multilink trunking. I don't believe I have ever seen anything on this? Does anyone have commentary on this subject. Any code examples if they exist would be helpful as well. If I've read anything it had to have been very little.



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  • 2.  RE: How does SRX series support MLT

    Posted 02-06-2025 15:32

    Can you expand on what you mean by multi-link trunking?  Do you mean aggregated ethernet interfaces (like LACP) or WAN bonding?



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  • 3.  RE: How does SRX series support MLT

    Posted 02-06-2025 16:03

    I have added this link and it is a description of the technology. The company described, is old but the patents have lived on. Other companies may describe these features differently but it has the same use and function still. This technology exists in other hardware.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-link_trunking



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  • 4.  RE: How does SRX series support MLT

    Posted 02-06-2025 15:58

    From what I can see here MLT is compatible with IEEE 802.3ad which is known as Aggregated Ethernet in the Juniper documentation

    MLT history

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-link_trunking

    Juniper SRX support for AE / LAG

    https://supportportal.juniper.net/s/article/SRX-EX-Link-aggregation-LACP-supported-non-supported-configurations-on-SRX-and-EX?language=en_US



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  • 5.  RE: How does SRX series support MLT

    Posted 02-06-2025 16:20

    Thanx for the replies...

    The reason I am asking is because I have implemented a multilink trunk set but the documentation provides descriptions for links for up to  8 ports. I FEAR that due to my limitations that I cannot increase past 4 ports. My thoughts are that I need to check if the routes are able to run properly, but that I can extend past the subsystem. Maybe I am wrong, and maybe a work around is necessary.



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  • 6.  RE: How does SRX series support MLT

    Posted 02-06-2025 16:30

    The number of links in an AE bundle supported vary by platform. But should scale beyond 4.  Also, if you mean number of AEs that set via a cli command and goes past 8. 

    I'm kind of confused on what your concerns are, can you state platform and config bits?



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  • 7.  RE: How does SRX series support MLT

    Posted 02-06-2025 17:19

    I am only worried about how SRX Series supports my multilink trunks in my avaya switch cluster. The need to try to extend my trunks through these SRX's is my goal for now. The link I gave is the BASE for the technology. I realize that how my avaya cluster communicates with other devices is out of the scope here, but I haven't chosen to extend alot of srx work beyond subsystem coding. Thus is why I'm seeking srx coding. To know if getting me past my 4 links is plausible is my main question. What's holding me back? Okd technology? Thank for the 8 and above quote!!!!



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  • 8.  RE: How does SRX series support MLT

    Posted 02-07-2025 02:40

    I havve worked with MLT, SMLT and R-SMLT in Avaya switches in the past. As Extreme Networks bought the Avaya networking part, they also own the MLT technology. MLT is equivalent to LG, or aggregated Ethernet as Juniper calls it. You can run LACP over MLT/SMLT if you like, making it fully compatible with a normal LAG using LACP, or do without LACP, making it a static LAG.

    In the SRX, you have these limitations:

    "For SRX4600 and SRX5000 line of devices, a redundant Ethernet interface LAG can have up to eight links per redundant Ethernet interface per node "

    "For SRX300 Series, SRX1500, SRX1600, SRX2300, SRX4100/SRX4200, and SRX4300 devices, a redundant Ethernet interface LAG can have up to maximum four links per redundant Ethernet interface per node"

    https://www.juniper.net/documentation/us/en/software/junos/chassis-cluster-security-devices/topics/topic-map/security-chassis-cluster-redundant-ethernet-lag-interfaces.html

    If you only have one interface in a reth (redundant Ethernet) per node, it is not a LAG and, cannot run LACP. If you have two interfaces per node or more, they form a LAG and can run LACP. This is not commonly known and makes extending the number of links from one to two or more a bit complicated. I'd have preferred to be able to create a one port LAG with LACP so I had the flexibility to just add member interface to the LAG in the switch where I connect the SRX, but you need to rebuild it. Once you have two or more interface, you can just add more in the LAG of course.

    "When at least two physical child interface links from each node are included in a redundant Ethernet interface configuration, the interfaces are combined within the redundant Ethernet interface to form a redundant Ethernet interface LAG." (same link as above).

    Steve: 16 members are allowed in "aggregated Ethernet", but I suspect Eugene (OP) wants reth, not ae in this case.




  • 9.  RE: How does SRX series support MLT

    Posted 02-07-2025 16:17

    Thank you fb35523.

    You have given me clarification on this matter. As I suspected it was due to a limitation, but I was not sure if it was an issue of misuse. My question really should have included scalability as per each trunk link, i.e. 1-4, etc but that is another question, perhaps for another time. Overhead being one of the issues. From what I see my qos is at a scaled 850mbps to a formed 524mbps per link. Thx kudos.



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  • 10.  RE: How does SRX series support MLT

    Posted 24 days ago

    A slight correction: In recent Junos releases, it is sufficient with only one interface per node in a reth to make it a LAG and run LACP on it. I just tried this in an SRX1600 cluster running 23.4R2-S2.

    set interfaces xe-0/2/0 ether-options redundant-parent reth1
    set interfaces xe-7/2/0 ether-options redundant-parent reth1
    set interfaces reth1 vlan-tagging
    set interfaces reth1 redundant-ether-options redundancy-group 1
    set interfaces reth1 redundant-ether-options lacp active
    set interfaces reth1 redundant-ether-options lacp periodic fast

    I think this change may have come in Junos 22 somewhere.




  • 11.  RE: How does SRX series support MLT

    Posted 23 days ago

    Thanks for the response. I am actually interested to know that MLT is inherently covered in 802.3ad. So, I think your info is helpful for future use, and to others like me. I must progress a little to find out if lag and lacp can fit into my configuration.



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  • 12.  RE: How does SRX series support MLT

    Posted 02-06-2025 19:26

    Looks like the maximum number of member links for the SRX series is 16 members.

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    A physical interface can be added to any aggregated Ethernet interface as long as all member links have the same link speed and the maximum number of member links does not exceed 16.

    https://www.juniper.net/documentation/us/en/software/junos/interfaces-security-devices/topics/topic-map/security-interface-config-aggregated-ethernet.html

    Routing platforms have higher limits.

    Platform

    Difference

    ACX Series

    ACX Series routers that support LAG, support a maximum of 255 interfaces per LAG.

    MX Series

    MX Series routers that support LAG, support a maximum of 64 interfaces per LAG.

    PTX Series

    PTX Series routers that support LAG, support a maximum of 64 interfaces per LAG.

    https://www.juniper.net/documentation/us/en/software/junos/interfaces-ethernet/topics/topic-map/aggregated-ethernet-interfaces-lacp-configure.html

    But these do vary with specific platforms across the line with some physical limitations with port counts and underlay chips so need to be verified per model.  But seems like 8 will be allowed in all cases that I checked.



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